HEY,WHY DON'T YOU COMPARE THE REAR SPEAKERS IN 5.1 ON THE denon VS THE YAMAHA! WHERE IS THE denons POWER PAL! YAMAHA REARS LITE UP THE denons REARS PLUS SOUND EQUAL WATTAGE TO THE FRONT. 5.1 is suppose to be equal all around. It should surround you with sound. Denon can't do this, it sounds like the rears are 60 watts, when the Yamaha kills on the same movie.If you can't hear this, get those ears cleaned out.Apparently you don't understand english. The DSP-A1 beats the Denon 5700 hands down. Not because the the dsp modes, which I don't even use. Just the fact that it blows the sound of the Denon in movies right out of the water. Ow, yea, soldmine, I sold both of my Denons to get a Yamaha, and I sold them dirt cheap. If you can't hear the difference, well that's your promblem. You probably think Dolby Digital dvd's are cleaner then DTS dvd's also. Well sold mine they aren't. I wouldn't buy the denon 5700 over the Yamaha DSP-A1 anyone who is reading this. Take it from someone WHO KNOWS, and compared both pieces for hours, side by side. Not someone who heard them for a couple of minutes in a sound room, and only owned one piece probably in his whole life. Probably an optimus system!

Sorry guys. The Denon does beat the Yamaha DSP-A1 in movies. I spent more than a few minutes with both pieces. The difference is small, but the Denon does it better. By the way, I heard no difference between rear levels as opposed to the other channels between the Denon and Yamaha. Both were properly setup. Don't even think about questioning MY level of experience and expertise.

Guys, I'm going to make this simply. I did tons of tests between the Denon 5700 and the Yamaha DSP-A1! The tests were on DD, DTS, DTS music, and cd music. The Yamaha won 3 out of 4! Denons regular cd music won hands down. Everythng else Yamaha won! So please, no more wondering which piece is better, Yamaha is. I don't know why this confusion on which piece to buy even comes up.

There is no way anyone could compare the Denon 5700 and the Yamaha DSP-A1 and walk out with the Yamaha! The only reason could be DSP modes. It definitely cannot be due to the amps. If you believe Yamaha amps are superior to Denon amps then I have some beachfront property I want to sell to you! Denon provides more detail in Dolby Digital and DTS. No the difference is not small!

I have been living with the DSP A1 for about 7 months and during that time I have been frustrated by a lack of bass weight. Thinking I needed a new sub woofer I purchased a Velodyne FSR 18. This provided some improvement, but I was still troubled by the lack of bass weight. I decided to start adjusting some of the parameters is the DSP modes to see if they had any impact on the bass. By gradually adjusting the "Room Size" parameter from its default of 1 down to .6 I was able to obtain a significant increase in bass weight and impact? I have no idea why this should be but as I continued to adjust down to the lowest setting of .1, the bass would graduly shift in location from the back of the room at the 1 setting to the front of the room at the .1 setting. This conditioned was evident in all of the DSP modes that have the "Room Size" attribute. Has anyone else had this experience? I consider this issue a major design defect which limits the usefullness of the DSP modes. I will be returning this unit to the dealer.

Hmmm....Dynamic Range Compression doesn't work with DTS on the DSP-A1. Only works with Dolby Digital. Now why wouldn't that work with both formats. Seems that it should since it is the dynamic range of the sound that it is trying to bring in closer together for maybe late nigh viewing. Not a big deal. No one probably uses it anyway. Boy what an oversight though. I have owned a DSP-A1 for just over a year. I have experimented with all parameter settings. How do you think I found the DRC quirk? I also have a review which noticed this quirk to back it up. Wonder what other surprises are lurking in the DSP-A1?

Besides DSP modes, what does the Yamaha offer? Is there processing of DD and DTS so bad that they need enhancement? Ok...Yamaha offers 7 channels. Hmmm...2 front effects channels at 35 watts. Great. Denon offers 2 sets of rear speakers. You can configure each mode (DD, DTS, THX engaged, etc.) to use the set of surrounds you want. You can use set A, or set B, or even both. You can have a set of dipole surrounds and a set of direct radiating. Yes, both sets of surrounds can be used at the same time. How is that for a multiple rear speaker setup. Yamaha lets you set channel levels for the center, surrounds and sub. Denon lets you set channel levels for all 5 speakers and sub. On the Yamaha, when using an SPL meter to balance the channels, if there is a difference between th left and right (i.e speaker in corner, other in open), you have to use the balance control. WHAT, THE BALANCE CONTROL?! Yep, the balance control. But you say, Yamaha lets you control the volumes of the center, surrounds and sub. So does Denon. And unlike Yamaha, Denon allows you to control the surrounds individually. Try that on the Yamaha (without going back into test tones). Denon also lets you set channel levels for each mode. That is correct. You can have seperate channel levels for DD, DTS, THX engaged, Pro Logic, and even the DSP modes. What only one setting on the Yamaha!? Whats that you say/ Denon has channel indicators and assignable digital inputs! What, Yamaha doesn't offer these useful features? Hmmm...all these extra that Denon offers on top of there superior amps and sound.

Please...
Can't someone clean up these whiney posts?

Look...I own a Yamaha product. It works great. I'm very happy with it. I have tried the Denon...it's a very good product too. I prefer the Yamaha. To me it sounds better. If you're trying to convince me that whatever I'm hearing from the Yamaha is nasty, horrible, screechy, abysmal sound, then I'll still take the Yamaha. Apparently I LIKE nasty, horrible, screechy, abysmal sound, and so do my family and friends and other people who have listened to my system. I really don't care for your opinion on the matter anymore. I went to the store...tried out both the Yamaha and Denon products and preferred the Yamaha. End of story.

Of course...some people on this board *AHEM* spend so much time bickering over whether the Yamaha DTS has dolby digital, thx, surround, white sidewalls, special blessings from the Pope, Elvis's signature on every capacitor, and so on that it get's tiresome. There is a thing out there called the sun. I know, I know...it scares you. All of us are scared of things that we've never encountered before...but I promise that if you get outside your little cave, enjoy it, and stop spending so much time writing anti-Yamaha posts we'll all be better off.

Why do you care so much about my purchase that you are trying so desperately to sway my decision? Are you that desperate for people to talk to you? Your constant whining and moaning about this product just tells us all what a cry-baby you are. This sounds just like an OS/2 user trying to tell me how much better his operating system is...the bottom line: Who cares? What works for you is not necessarily what is best for me.

You like Denon. We realize that. We REALLY, REALLY realize that. You have made it CRYSTAL clear to us that the Denon is superior in so many inaudible subtle ways and we CLEARLY understand your position on this matter. Again, in case you didn't read that clearly enough...we are 100% convinced that you prefer the Denon. There is no more doubt in our minds. To you, the Denon rules. All hail Denon, you say. Denon is definately your bed partner.

Okay...now that we've heard and understand your point of view...go away.

Best,
- Andy...

What, the Yamaha doesn't let you set a different subwoofer level setting for movies and music. Wow! The Denon has a seperate subwoofer level setting for surround formats (DD,DTS, Pro Logic) and another for Stereo and even one for Direct Stereo. That's right. I forgot. The Yamaha has 42 DSP modes. With a few tweaks you could probably simulate it. I owned the Yamaha. I prefer the Denon. My opinion. Your opinion is that you prefer the Yamaha. I respect that. I did comparisons in my home with both units. I went with the one I liked the best. Both are great units. Anyone who has narrowed down the choices between the two should spend time with both and not just a few minutes. Time spent is not only needed for the sound of these two, but also for the features that may not be mentioned in the manuals or the salesperson may not be aware of.

I've been in the stereo business for about twenty one years now. I sold tons of amps, and I mean none, none compare with the Yamahas. I don't mean to get in the grudge match, I'm just saying for a fact, I've been listening and studying these pieces for years. No doubt, this is the best piece for price on the market. Thank you, Yamaha