Prog. scan, plays cd-r.

no DTS decoder?

I Just got th3 6200 last nigth after researching it for a bit. I have a TW56X81 and it does look sweet. I hate to admit I was watching it on interlaced for about 5 minutes till I found the Colorstream button under the flipcover on the remote heh heh. I didn't read the manual I wanted to watch movies!
If you correctly hook this up to a compatible set and you cannot tell the difference between the interlaced and progressive you must be Mr Magoo. I have terrible eyesight and I could tell the difference. Once the prices come down for prog. scan players the masses will be abuzz!
My only regret is that this player does not have a DTS decoder. I'm not hell bent on DTS just yet but for this price I thought it should have it built in, I believe the 4200 unit does! Anyways I will get DTS when I upgrade my receiver.

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This is an explanation because of the several amount of EMails I received. If you are interrested in the progressive display matter, read on.

Before I begin, let's explain the difference between HDTV-ready televisions with a Digital Scan Converter and others without it. (BTW, every Toshiba TV set model number ending by X81 or X92 has a Digital Scan Converter)

Standard televisions take an interlaced signal either from composite, S-Video or component video input and transmits it (almost) directly to the CRT(s). A single frame is then made of two passes on the CRT(s) (one pass will draw the odd lines and the second pass will draw the even lines).

[ Video source (DVD or other) ]
|
| <- interlaced signal (2 passes per frame)
|
[ Transport (component video, composite, etc.) ]
|
| <- interlaced signal (2 passes per frame)
|
[ Video display (TV or monitor) ]

The result is :

Frame 1, Pass 1 - Interlaced
--------------- < line 1
< line 2
--------------- < line 3
< line 4

Frame 1, Pass 2 - Interlaced
< line 1
--------------- < line 2
< line 3
--------------- < line 4

Televisions equipped with digital scan converters add another step to this process in order to redure flicker generated by interlaced images. This does something similar to line doubling in that it takes two frames, one with the odd lines and another with the even lines and averages them in order to create only one frame with every line. The image is then sent to the CRT(s) in only one pass, eliminating flicker. There are more advanced processing involved but this simple explanation should give you an idea.

[ Video source (DVD or other) ]
|
| <- interlaced signal (2 passes per frame)
|
[ Transport (component video, composite, etc.) ]
|
| <- interlaced signal (2 passes per frame)
|
[ Digital scan converter ]
|
| <- progressive signal (1 pass per frame)
|
[ Video display (TV or monitor) ]

The result is :

Frame 1, Pass 1 - Progressive
--------------- < line 1
--------------- < line 2
--------------- < line 3
--------------- < line 4

So, TVs which converts interlaced signals to progressive have the advantage of being technically flicker-free (and therefore have much higher REAL resolution).

Now, things are getting hot when you add a DVD player with progressive output. Why? Because the video on a digital video disc is interlaced. DVDs are coded for either the PAL or NTSC system, both of which are based on interlaced signals. When you buy a progressive DVD player to use with your HDTV-ready set without digital scan conversion, you get all the advantages of progressive scanning, which is why you will notice a very big improvement in quality. However, this improvement is not attribuable to the DVD player itself, but to the digital scan conversion circuitry, should it be in the DVD player or the television set.

When you have a TV equipped with digital scan conversion (providing this conversion is also taking place on interlaced component video sources like on the ....X81/X92 models from Toshiba), the difference between interlaced and progressive display is almost impossible to distinguish. This is because whatever output your DVD player sends to the display, it gets progressive before being sent to the CRT(s).

When you set your DVD player to send progressive signals, this is what happens:

[ Video source (DVD or other) ]
|
| <- interlaced signal (2 passes per frame)
|
[ Digital scan converter ]
|
| <- progressive signal (1 pass per frame)
|
[ Transport (component video ]
|
| <- progressive signal (1 pass per frame)
|
[ Video display (TV or monitor) ]

The result is :

Frame 1, Pass 1 - Progressive
--------------- < line 1
--------------- < line 2
--------------- < line 3
--------------- < line 4

And when you set your player to output interlaced signal, you get :

[ Video source (DVD or other) ]
|
| <- interlaced signal (2 passes per frame)
|
[ Transport (component video ]
|
| <- interlaced signal (2 passes per frame)
|
[ Digital scan converter ]
|
| <- progressive signal (1 pass per frame)
|
[ Video display (TV or monitor) ]

The result is :

Frame 1, Pass 1 - Progressive
--------------- < line 1
--------------- < line 2
--------------- < line 3
--------------- < line 4

So the only difference between the first scenario and the second scenario lies in the quality of the digital scan converter and the quality of the transport. This means that if your TV set has a better digital scan converter than your DVD player, your image would be better when setting your DVD player to output interlaced signals (because the TV would then use it's converter instead of the DVD's). Either way, your display will always remain progressive on a TV with a digital scan converter (provided it is active even on interlaced component video sources).

Owners of a Toshiba 6200 DVD player and a Toshiba ....X81/X92 TV set can experiment with this by setting the Toshiba 6200 DVD player to progressive output and going into Setup / Image and setting the progressive conversion mode to 'Video'. You will then see what you've never seen before on your ....X81/X92 TV : flicker. This is because the DVD player sends a progressive signal to the TV but that progressive signal is interlaced.

This is what it does :

Frame 1, Pass 1 - Progressive
--------------- < line 1
< line 2
--------------- < line 3
< line 4

Frame 2, Pass 1 - Progressive
< line 1
--------------- < line 2
< line 3
--------------- < line 4

Hope you understand.

Finally, my opinion concerning the DVD 6200 / TN50X81 duo is that the DVD has a slightly more advanced digital scan converter providing slightly better images than the TV's integrated IDSC. This being said, I am not quite sure if it's worth the 300$ more than other Toshiba DVDs (having used a SD-2109 for over 8 months).

Thanks for your reading.

Ability to switch to interlaced output with the push of a button on the remote for non-anamorphic DVDs. Very easy to use remote control--one of the best I've seen.

None I've found yet.

This is a fantastic player and a great bargain at under $600 street price. I upgraded from the Pioneer DV525 and the difference is amazing. When viewed on the Mitsubishi WT46805, a progressive scan picture is richly detailed, the color saturation is wonderful, motion is smooth, and even the grain of the film can be seen. This is a better picture than you will see in a theatre. The 5.1 DTS sound is also fantastic. But before you buy one, just make sure your TV can handle progressive input or you'll be wasting your money.

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Used: Pioneer DV525 (ok but noisey tray transport). Compared with: Toshiba 5109, Pioneer DV434.

INCREDIBLE Progressive Scan Picture!!!

None so far

This is the nicest DVD player under $1000. If you're sitll using a non-Progressive Scan DVD, UPGRADE! The Progressive Scan picture is so crisp, and I find that colors and textures are a lot more vibrant. The picture just seems to jump out from the screen at you.

I wasn't sure about the dual-tray feature (does anyone actually watch 2 movies back to back?), this DVD player has SO many features! The built-in video scaling feature is useful if you can't change video modes on your TV.

It is quiet and solidly built. No regrets here. If you're in the market for a new DVD player or an upgrade, look no further. This IS the DVD player for you.

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Sony DVP-330

Progressive Scanning, Dual-Tray, Flexibility of switching from interlaced to progressive (to convine your wife/girlfrd why you just had to go spend that $300+/- to upgrade)

NONE AT ALL
THE SD9200 is a little heavier, but the SD6200 performance wise is uncomparable!!!

All the other reviews are pretty much right on the button, those who are worrying about the remote, get over it...all you need is a great universal remote. The last review was exact, pop in the "Tarzan" DVD or try "Bad Boys" Who needs to spend $8 for a movie out, when Toshiba has brought the movie experience home to it's customers.

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Toshiba SD-3109

Progressive Scan, HDCD for music, ability to switch from interlaced to progressive, sound of DAC's

No aspect ratio control

This is a great DVD player that delivers excellent picture and sound quality. If you have anamorphic discs it's all good, but if you don't it's a hassle, because there's no aspect ratio adjustments, only on the Toshiba SD-9200. I think this is a player that will show those folks who are tough to please that DVD is the way to go and the reason to upgrade in the future. You of course need a digital television with component input on your television set if you wish to enjoy the benefits of the progressive scan picture. It will take a while before prices drop and full featured Progressive Players are available at affordable prices. I am looking forward to Sony's entry into the world of progressive scanning and debut hopefully with a 5-disc changer, now that would be the DVD player to beat. Until then enjoy this machine if you are able to.

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Panasonic H1000

Remote, Inputs/Outputs, CD-R capable, Dual tray

Some pixellation on lines.

This DVD was the best fit for my TV (Toshiba 65H80). It has progressive scan. Good connectivity. I like the remote, because it is easy to and small. Picture quality is great, although, I did notice some pixellation when display angular lines. Not sure if this is a configuration issue with the TV or the DVD

My System:

TV - Toshiba 65H80
DVD - Toshiba SD6200
Reveiver - Denon AVR-3300
Speakers - Pold Audio RM7500 (Subwoofer PSW 650)

Picture quality, progressive scanning, of course.

Does not seek highest quality audio track.

All of the good image qualities were discussed so I'll suggest what's missing: The 6200 does not automatically seek the highest decoding mode (5.1 vs. 2.0, i.e.) as does the Sony, although the audio switch button is readily apparent. Also, I was disappointed that a higher end player such as this Toshiba does not pass the 96/24 signal digitally to the receiver, which in my case is a Sony 777. However, I bought it for the picture so it gets a 5. Thanks.

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Sony 530, Pioneer 414

Progressive/Interlace switching on the fly
Enhanced control and tweeking of picture quality compared to SD-5109
The remote layout. The Joystick and Jog wheel are cool toys and user friendly
Dual Tray...more useful than I expected
Can control unit to stay in film,video,or auto mode
Improved multi-coloured menu system
Can save captured video frames for the background

Remote not backlit, I would swap the unnecessary 5.1 decoder for a backlight.

I've owned the 2109 for a year and have been happy with how well the Toshiba gear works. Last month I upgraded the TV to the Toshiba 55HX70 RPTV. The component video out of the 2109 looked good but wanted to push the TV to it's capability so I picked up a store display 5109 to view 480p. I was hooked on progressive scan and waited anxiously for the 6200's to appear in stores before I could return the 5109. I got the last one in the city,(these things were selling like hotcakes!). I had both units and compared side by side. The 5109 is a great DVD player but lacks the strengths listed above. The picture quality of the 6200 is theoretically supposed to be better than the 5109 due to the 4X oversampling and 54 Mhz DAC's. I felt the 6200's picture detail and motion artifacts were slightly improved over the 5109. And the extra detail tweaking can bring out the best in a wide range of source material. The 5109 is a solid unit, but the 6200's extra features and performance now make this unit the most attractive value for Toshiba's progressive scan line.
By now you've guessed the 5109 was returned and the 6200 stayed with me. I purchased it for $800(Can) / $540(US).

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Joystick on remote was designed by monkeys. It works when it wants to. Remote not backlit.

I had been using the SD-3109 for just over a year. It works well, but wouldn't play my CD-R's so it was time for an upgrade. This machine works great, although that remote joystick could go and I wouldn't miss it. Watching a movie on progressive scan on my Sony HD 53" TV is so clear I can't believe the difference.
the new toggle button on the side of the remote (FF,REW,Play & pause) is very convinient also.
I use an RCA cable for my video digital out and the optical for audio and I couldn't be happier. Rack setup:
Marantz Sr-14ex reciever
Toshiba SD-6200 DVD
3 Marantz M-700 monoblock amps (surrounds & center)
Nikko Alpha 450 amp (fronts)
Paradigm Refference 80 (fronts)
Paradigm Studio cc (center)
Celestion impact 35's (rear surrounds)
Energy RV-SS (front surrounds)
Sony KP53HS10 (TV)

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