Alpha-Core Alpha Cores Goertz MI2 Speaker Cables

Alpha-Core Alpha Cores Goertz MI2 Speaker Cables 

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[Oct 15, 2009]
SuperHornet2192
AudioPhile

Summary: the Alpha-Core/Goertz Audio veracity MI2 presents very good performance in the bass and midrange but treble is depressed when partnered with tube amplifiers, especially SET (single ended triode) amplifiers. Alpha Core customer service is poor and rude with customers, unresponsive and does not honour warranty on a defectiveproducts. Sonic value is a 3, but in light of concerns on customer service, overall value is no better than 2.

I have a 6 feet Veracity pair, and have partnered with both solid state amplifiers like the Son of Ampzilla II, Pass Aleph for example and a number of tube amplfiiers, both push pull El34/6550 and low power single ended triode SET 45/300B/2A3. My MI2 evaluation is with the Zobel network in place.

The claim to fame of Alpha-Core is the low inductance with 2 thin copper foil insulated by thin polymer layers. Its capacitance is high and so its AC resistance is not necessarily low. Although Alpha Core shows on its web site clean 10Khz response to step input, I find the MI2 presenting a depressed trable level, especially with SET and tube amplifier. However, with the 2 dozen amplifiers I try, the depressed treble renders music lifeless and its performance in the highs do not correlate with the clean frequency response that Alpha Core claims. I initially had high expectations for them, since I use the 12-gauge Alpha Core coper foil inductors in my speaker crossover and view these foils to be among the very best, only second to the ultra expensive Duelund coils and clearly superior to the Northcreek as well as the Solen Perfect lay and Hepa-Litz inductors, both in 10-guage. I then went back in some of the audiophile press reviews, and one major magazine reviewer also mentions the depressed treble of the MI2.

This probably explains why the Veracity is known to be a warm speaker in audiophile circles. Its bass performance is very good, in term of weight but not as good in term of bass definition. Its midrange is very good although not state of the art transparent or decay. Combined with the pedestrian performanc ein treble, the MI2 sounds warm. I burned in the MI2 for 300 hours and really try to like it. In the end, I relegate it to the role of driving my woofers in my bi-amplified speakers, and after I made my own Litz silver cable, removed it from the system.

Although Alpha Core copper speaker cables are priced quite reasonably, there are better speakers in the MI2 price range. Take the Elf Audio Silver Signature which I bought for $125, a weave of 6 stranded silver wires, it basically trounced the veracity in all aspects. Or the TMC (The Music Cable) Reference from Australia which presents better bass pitch and definition while delivering the same weight. The TMC is more neutral than the MI2. The same comment applies with the Signal Cable Ultra speaker cables.

With SET amplifiers and high efficiency speakers like Tannoy, horns, the MI2 may just have too much of copper foil. That is something that Dr Gizmo (the late harvey Rosenerg) mentioned in a write up on Alpha Core. He in fact used a modfiied Alpha Core Triode Quartz 2 interconnects as speaker cable with an effective 18 gauge. I did not go into the trouble of modifying a TQ2 interconnect (it is a rather expensive test if it does not work out). But I went ahead and bought a pair of the cheaper MI1 Center Stage from Alpha-Core. With SET, I clearly prefer the MI1 to the MI2, and I did not find the treble performance to be as objectionable as the MI2. The MI1 has less copper, so my experience sort of reflect Dr Gizmo findings as well. I in fact uses the MI1 as internal speaker wire after this test.

To be frank, you can build yourself for the same cost as the MI2 a much superior speaker cable. Buy some 24-gauge pure silver solid core wires, buy Teflon tubes (they need to be at least 3 wire sizes larger so you can sleeve easier), and weave them into a braid like girls braid their hair. If you do not know how to braid, get your sister to do it for you. Now you just build a wide bandwidth Litz weaved speaker wire. Litz weave cable has been around for 100 years, and the laws of physics are undeniable in term of their wide bandwith. No other cable geometry comes close or is as scientifically proven. Even Western Electric used Litz geometry in their cables (I spent 25 years at Bell Telephone Labs as a researcher).

Now if I end here, I would have given the MI2 a 3 rating. arrived dead, it has an electrical short. In my 35 years as an audiophile, I have never received a cable that is shorted. Technically I can easily repair it myself, however I sent it back. I want Alpha Core to take a look at it and fix its production process as well as its quality control. The fact I reeived a defective cable speakers says volume about their quality control. In my daytime job, I deal a lot with japanese enigineers in Japan for the past 20 years. the Japanese pride themselves on continuous improvements. No process is perfect, and you need to continually work on improving it and its controls. And that is what they learned well from dr Deming on the 6-sigma theory. 4 weeks passed, nothing and I had called Alpha Core repeatedly. In the end I receive an email saying that I have shorted the cable and it is my fault. That is a ludicrous technical claim. So I called them and demanded I speak to the engineer who did the root cause. He could not proved his claim, so he said to me, this is not an Alpha Core cable. I asked him to reconfirm what he just said. I asked hiim is he saying this is a fake cable? which he did not respond to. In the end he said they never looked at what is the issue wth the cable, because they believe I shorted it, and their production process is flawless. The engineer was rude and arrogant. Having worked with the japanese, I am extremely disappointed with Alpha Core; they are not even interested in finding out the flaws in their production processes. Yes, their cable is good and has good price value, but what good is it, if their customer support is non existent? what good is it if they ship junks? Look at the US auto industry and learn.

When I received the MI1 back, I cut out the pretty heat shrink with the Alpha Core logo on it, at the place they tie together the + and - leads. What I see is as follows. Alpha Core basically uses reinforced clear packing tape that is very thin. Since their cable as a larger width than the width of the leads into the spades or bananas, they reduce the width in a 90 degree sharrp corner. A better design will cut it as a slope. Those corners are very sharp, they can cut thru your skin like a knife, and they puncuterd the thin packing tape that provide insulation between + and -, The puncture is on both insualtion layers. That is how the cable is shorted out. I use Teflon tape to re-wrap the + and - and I clipped away the sharp corners. Bingo, the MI1 is no longer shorted. My repair job took me 10 minutes from start to finish, at a rather leisure pace.

Overall I believe the Alpha Core MI2 veracity is a decent cable with a good price. If you have SET, I say the MI1 is better, and I say the same with tube amplifiers. Also if your speakers have a peaky treble, then it will tame the treble. Speaker cable synergy depends on all the other associated equipment you use, so my comments on its audio performance reflects only my personal experiences. The MI2 could work very well in other and in your systems. Plus what I hear, you may not agree with me in any case.

I would caution buyers that Alpha Core customer service and lack of warranty support is a matter of grave concern. Not all audiophiles are good with a solder gun or has a PhD. I do like Alpha Core copper foil inductors, and I hope that Alpha Core will improve its customer service. A company can have a top notch product, but the lack of support means there will not be repeat customers.

OVERALL
RATING
2
VALUE
RATING
2
[Aug 05, 2009]
Michel
AudioPhile

Goertz M1

Very often M12 speaker cable are mentionned by users as being vert highly regarded. I bought the M1 copper version which is 2 times narrower than Veracity (M12). These cables are extremely good. I wnow my speakers very well and they don't go much below 50 Hz. but these cables are much much better than Kimber cable 4 TC, much transparent. It's a clear and spotless window on music. The mid and upper range is absoultely clean.

I also possess a winsome lab (mouse) and a Cambridge 640C + Goertz pearl interconnects.
Marvelous, merveilleux, wunderbar. The price is absolutely resonnable for the quality. I put the solid silver spades that need a very strong iron to melt the solder.

OVERALL
RATING
5
VALUE
RATING
5
[Jun 08, 2003]
George
AudioPhile

Strength:

More image depth.

Weakness:

Youe really need to get the largest size they provide to get the most. Not their recommended size.

I have just tried out the Python MI 2, These have greatly improved the image depth of my system. I tried these after I tried changing the inductors of my speakers to the film inductors made by Alpha Core, which made a significant inprovements in image and low end. I thried Alpha Core products based on the theory of signal skin depth and impedance variation. I suspect the longer runs your cables are, the more you will benefit from this technology.

Similar Products Used:

self built. cables. monster cables, others.

OVERALL
RATING
4
VALUE
RATING
4
[Jan 02, 2003]
Toota
AudioPhile

Strength:

Excellent rhythm, bass, and treble. Easy to listen to. Have not heard of other cables in this price range.

Weakness:

None

Bought the Alpha-Core M2 (10Ga Cu)Veracity to replace my DH Labs silver sonic Q10. The Alpha Core blows away the DH Labs in presence, bass, detailing and rhythm. Regret not replacing earlier. Brings out the beauty in the amp/speaker combo.The Zoebel networks contribution to the equation is unknown. This cable really brings out the best in my Audio Physic Virgo's.

Similar Products Used:

DH Labs Q10

OVERALL
RATING
5
VALUE
RATING
5
[May 30, 2002]
chinman
AudioPhile

Strength:

warm, soundstage, detail, huge bargain buy, great construction

Weakness:

none

Formerly owned the MI2 Veracity. Currently own the MI2 Python Biwires, which eliminate more EMI & RFI w/ twists. Used in conjuction w/ my Krell HT system. There is real science behind these cables. Contemplated on getting Cardas Golden Cross but could not justify the 4x price (used). Great buy if you can find it in the used market. The fact that they seamlessly blend into my cherry stained oak hardwood floors is an added bonus.

Similar Products Used:

kimber 4tc/8tc

OVERALL
RATING
5
VALUE
RATING
5
[May 10, 2002]
R A
Audio Enthusiast

Strength:

Very revealing. Huge soundstage. Precise imaging.

Weakness:

None at this price.

I am using the Alpha Core Veracity (M1-2, 9 awg) for the upper end of my bi-wired front home theatre towers. The lower end is Kimber Kable 4TC, shotgunned, a single run to each lower binding post. For comparison, I have reversed the hook-up, putting the Kimber 4TC on the upper end and the Goertz cables on the lower end. No comparison. I immediately noticed a lack of detail and depth of soundstage, and Kimber 4TC is one heck of a good speaker cable. The M1-2 cables are very revealing and excel on mid and high frequency detail. The soundstage is huge! I also noticed that the M1-2''s are more extended than the Kimber 4TC in the bass as well. An extremely impressive speaker cable, especially for the price. My ratings therefore have been made easy. 5 star''s overall and 5 star''s for value. Like the reviewer well below, I will not ever part with these! Well done Alpha Core!

Similar Products Used:

Kimber Kable 4PR, 8PR, 4TC, 8TC

OVERALL
RATING
5
VALUE
RATING
5
[Feb 24, 2002]
williesoon
Audio Enthusiast

Strength:

Beautiful cables at the price. Makes Nordost and Kimber look overpriced!

Weakness:

Stiffness, but that adds to its uniqueness.

I got this cable to replace my QED Silver Anniversary''s and I was blown away by it. Everything seem to come to live, and the brightness seem to be dissappear. Bass are much tighter and the midrange is fuller and more musical compared to what I had before. The Kimber 8TC is similar in performance (more to the warmth side) but I like the Alphacore better because of its price and its all round ability. buy it!

Similar Products Used:

QED Silver Anniversary Kimber 8TC/4TC Nordost Blue Heavens

OVERALL
RATING
5
VALUE
RATING
5
[Jun 24, 2001]
Mike
Audiophile

Strength:

Detail, clarity, smoothness, cost.

Weakness:

Not very flexible (stiff).

Great cable, especially for the price. Very neutral yet highly detailed w/o introducing brightness. Similar in sound (or lack thereof) to Analysis Plus Oval 12, this cable should be compared to any of the cost-no-object contenders from AQ, Kimber, Cardas, etc.

Similar Products Used:

Analysis plus, Kimber, AQ, Polk litz (doubled-up), CAT5 diy, etc.

OVERALL
RATING
5
VALUE
RATING
5
[Jun 24, 2000]
PAUL LINDEMANN
Audiophile

Strength:

Very fast, with details and dynamic resolution.

Weakness:

Clean midrange, but may be too revealing in "bright" systems - check out the lone one star rating.

The first thing that you notice about the performance of these cables is the transparency and speed. You hear things in recordings that you may have missed previously.

The highs are endless and even, the mids are clear with plenty of air, and the bass is a nice balance between bloom and tight - all ultra fast!

Highly recommended. Solid state systems with bright speakers like maggies or thiels may not reach the satisfaction with these cables...but its not the cables, its the system.

Similar Products Used:

DHL Silver sonics, Tara RSC 1

OVERALL
RATING
5
VALUE
RATING
5
[Mar 02, 2001]
Daniel
Audio Enthusiast

Strength:

Cost:benefit ratio, try before you buy offer from factory, cool appearance

Weakness:

Have to hide them behind speakers where you cant enjoy their good looks

Even though I'm just an audio enthusiast, I noticed a large difference in my system right out of the box. I replaced the 10 gauge Vampire Wires to my Vandersteen 1Ce's with an eight foot pair of MI2's terminated with bananas. The highs were cleaner and crisper, immediately. I have never been a big believer in cables, but "cable-nuts" might soon have another supporter.

I can't comment on any difference in the low end since I am sending the lows to my M&K MX125 mkII sub.

You can't go wrong with the free audition period from the factory.

Similar Products Used:

Monster cable, vampire wire

OVERALL
RATING
5
VALUE
RATING
5
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