Creek Audio OBH-12 Preamplifiers

Creek Audio OBH-12 Preamplifiers 

USER REVIEWS

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[Sep 03, 2004]
ryder
Audio Enthusiast

Strength:

Reveals the true signature of your components

Weakness:

Bass

My system : Sony XA7ES Sonic Frontiers Line 1 Plinius SA-100MkIII Sonus Faber Concerto Grand Piano Nordost Blue Heaven speaker cables Wireworld Eclipse interconnects Most people would think this dirt cheap passive pre from a relatively budget company producing low-mid end gears would be of inferior quality. Wrong. This tiny little piece will reveal the sound signature of the rest of your system since it doesn't have any character on its own. Although I have the SF Line 1 which is a very good preamp on its own account, I never enjoyed listening to faster pop and rock music. Those sharp twangs of electric guitars lacked dynamics and sounded lame and lifeless. This suggest that most tube preamps basically falter when it comes to playing rock material in comparison with their soild-state counterparts. Although the Creek wouldn't be on par with most good active preamps, IMO it basically kills the SF Line 1 when it comes to playing pop and rock material. Since my musical taste varies from smooth jazz to pop and rock, I'm getting the best of both worlds by having 2 preamps in my system. Listening to Fourplay and Norah Jones with the Sonic Frontiers was pure pleasure while the Creek waves its magic wand when you put in some music from Republica or Linkin Park. The only caveat with the OBH-12 is bass. It lacks authority and doesn't go deep in comparison with my SF line 1. Judging from the price tag, it doesn't seem to be a weakness. For about $200 used, whatmore can you ask? Highly recommended.

Similar Products Used:

Sonic Frontiers Line 1, Threshold T3 and a handful of other tube premps

OVERALL
RATING
4
VALUE
RATING
5
[Apr 12, 2003]
ArthurGatos
Audio Enthusiast

Strength:

Absolute clarity of signal, will show the quality of your source and of the recording, remote control with choice of 3 inputs and volume as well as mute.

Weakness:

A couple more inputs would be nice. Sonicaly NONE, as it simply is...not there!

Guys (and gals), passive preamps are all about synergy, and to all those reviewers that complain about the OBH 12 I say this: What you hear, good or bad, is the rest of your system, NOT the little Creek, this has NOT a sonic signature of its own. What you also hear is the match or mis match between your components, as the OBH 12 unlike active preamps. does not offer impedance matching. Therefore, with the right choice of cables, you may be able to 'tailor' the sound, to a degree, but unless the output of your source matches the input of your power amp. you better NOT use the OBH 12. In my particular set up it works brilliantly, and in blind tests I had many people prefering it to my Audio Research LS 2, which by the way, is a great active preamp. But the Creek sounds cleaner, more accurate in tonal balance, and...simply it doesn't get on the way of the signal. Since I bought it, I use it constantly, and every now and then, I connect the LS 2, for an hour or so, just to remind myself of the weaknesses of active preamps (coloration, noise and the rest). If your source and amplifier(s) are matched, go for it. At the price is a steal.

Similar Products Used:

Audio Research LS 2 Audolab 8000 C Proceed PRE

OVERALL
RATING
5
VALUE
RATING
5
[Feb 02, 2003]
olly911
Audio Enthusiast

Strength:

seems a good, basic, passive preamp for not too much money, good for experimenting and a complete solution.

Weakness:

looks like it cost £200 if that bothers you, could be replicated or bettered for less money

Having tried one of these recently I was as impressed as I expected. I don't follow the argument that passive pres limit dynamics, I think there are just certain systems they will work well in and you need to get the impedances matched and have the right intercnonects otherwise they will sound crap. However, since you cannot control source switching from the remote, all this unit consists of is a switch box and remote volume control (obviously) so as someone else suggested why not buy the components yourself? Look at the Placette reviews and website - the quality comes down to the resistors... I'm sure for les money you could buy much higher quality components and it wouldn't be a home-build project as daunting and perhaps pointless as trying to create an active preamp. Also, for tweakers, has no-one thought of replacing the potentiometer with a higher grade one to really see what the OBH-12 and your system are capable of. Sorry to make this more discursive than informative but I'd be interested to know what other people think on the subject. Having read the reviews and assuming the OBH-12 sounds good in your system do you think there is any chance that the Placette passive pre or volume controls would sound worse? Surely they should equal or improve, and if so the simplicity suggests you could save a packet and put a couple of high grade components between your source(s) and poweramp. Before you say it I know manufacturers budgets don't all go on components and not everyone is interested in making up their own kit. Please email me with any relevant experiences or thoughts on the subject or on the OBH-12.

Similar Products Used:

many varied in mine and others systems

OVERALL
RATING
4
VALUE
RATING
4
[Nov 26, 2002]
Charles
Casual Listener

Strength:

Adds remote control to any two-channal system w/ RCA outputs Sounds good in my low-fi setup Doesn't break the bank

Weakness:

Remote had weak signal Remote stopped working after one year

I bought this unit to serve a remote volume control for a Yamaha RP-U100 receiver in an A/V setup that my Dad has in front of his Lay-Z-Boy chair. Having to lean forward to adjust the volume was unacceptable to him, so I got this unit to limit motion to a finger wiggle. The unit works as advertised and gets the job done. The supplied remote control is a different story. It was weak to begin with and after about one year of use it started to become even weaker. As a precaution, I stored the codes in my Marantz universal remote. About a month later the remote stopped working completely and I had to get purchase a El Cheap-O learning remote and teach it the codes from the Marantz.

Similar Products Used:

Sony TA-E9000es and Sony TA-P9000es

OVERALL
RATING
4
VALUE
RATING
3
[Nov 25, 2002]
Jay3
AudioPhile

Strength:

Size, can be used without a power supply; sound, build

Weakness:

The clicking sound from the unit when the remote is used.

I purchased this unit four years ago as an interim measure for my home theatre set-up. It serves as volume control for the Front channels on a SONY D500 DVD player w/onboard DD5.1. I upgraded to a ROTEL RSP 976 Pre/Pro and put this little preamp away for a while. Recently, after a power outage, my BAT VK30 would not come on. I dug out the OBH 12 and installed it in my system - without a power supply! The sound was a bit more forward in the mids than the VK30, but had the same uncolored sound. It was slightly more solid-state-sounding on the "esses", but otherwise quite enjoyable - except when my wife wonders why we have a big ole BAT VK30 that cost 10X the OH12. Fortunately, the OBH 12 does not have balanced ins and outs, or I would have had very little to argue about. My stereo system: BAT VK 30 AES SuperAmp w/ Balanced in SONY C333ES Parasound DAC 1100 and Monarchy DIP Johnson Transformers ISO MAX ASL MG Head OTL Assorted Kimber and Homegrown Audio cables and ICs

Similar Products Used:

Parasound PLD 2000, ROTEL RSP 976, OUTLAW 950, BAT VK30

OVERALL
RATING
4
VALUE
RATING
5
[Nov 25, 2002]
Socrates
AudioPhile

Strength:

Extended top to bottom, fairly transparent, quiet, ok dynamics, the virtues of a remote.

Weakness:

Flat sounding, soundstage collapsed into only 2D, sound overall is colored, thin without body, but not unenjoyable, great backup while inbetween preamps but I couldn't live with it for too long.

For the cost I can't see anything bettering it until about he $750 range, for an entry level and low budget system this would be my first choice and could easily reccomend, but without concern to price this is just an average preamp, slightly above mass market quality. Associated Gear: Von Schweikert VR3s MSB Nelson Dac w/upsampling Pioneer Elited CD jukebox DIY Belden and DH Labs cables Monster Cable HTS2500 Power conditioner Vibrapods abound

Similar Products Used:

Rogue 66 Magnum, Kinergetics Chiro, Nad, McIntosh, Musical Fidelity A3cr, Parasound

OVERALL
RATING
3
VALUE
RATING
4
[Sep 07, 2002]
David Ellis
AudioPhile

Strength:

Extreme Clarity

Weakness:

System Synergy must be considered

My intial purchase of the little preamp was based purely upon budget concerns. I figured that if the unit didn't work well then I would resell it and purchase something else. The Creek preamp has occupied a space between my Anthem CD-1 and Bryston 3B-ST for almost 2 years, and I was/am very pleased with it. Until recently I really hadn't bothered to fuss with testing other preamps in my system, but a friend brought over his Sonic Frontiers SFL-1 Signature series preamp. His SF unit retailed for $2500 new. His visit was very worthwhile. Upon placing the SF Sig in my system we both immediately noticed something very interesting... NOISE. The Creek had none, the SF had a taint of grit. After a little more listening I noticed slightly better bass articulation with the SF preamp, but the difference was very minimal. Overall there was really no comparison between the $300 Creek and the $2500 Sonic Frontiers Signature. The Creek was clearly better. Using a passive preamp effectively requires some caution though. It requires a relatively strong output stage on the CD player, a relatively high input impedance on the power amplifier, and realatively short cable runs. For me, it works wonderfully. The Creek OBH-12 looks like a child's toy, but it sqarely beat a 25lb+ giant in my system.

Similar Products Used:

Sonic Frontiers SFL-1 Signature

OVERALL
RATING
5
VALUE
RATING
5
[Aug 28, 2002]
andyaiken
Audio Enthusiast

Strength:

Clarity of sound, price, remote control on a passive amp with mute facility. Small so it fits easily into a crowded rack.

Weakness:

Sometimes I wish for more inputs so all my equipment can benefit. Heavy cables can cause the unit to tip slightly but this is cured by a small piece of blu-tack.

The OBH 12 is simplicity itself to use, it has three inputs, one tape output and one main output. The remote control is slightly quirky but once you discover how it works it's easy to use. I use the Creek with an Audio Research Classic 30 power amp and it is excellent producing a level of clarity I have not heard with other pre-amps. Soundstage is wide and deep, letting the rest of the equipment work to their full potential. It just makes the whole experience of listening to music that much more enjoyable. For the price it's an absolute bargain and it shows what a good passive pre-amp can achieve. Price paid is in UK Pounds.

Similar Products Used:

Moth Passive 30, Rose RV23S, Quad 34,

OVERALL
RATING
5
VALUE
RATING
5
[Jul 18, 2002]
napoleon
Audio Enthusiast

Strength:

Clarity and transparency

Weakness:

Build quality

This preamp is really amazing. Very transparent and dynamic. I used to have Musical Fidelity A3CR preamp to run with my MF A3CR power amp but it was too bright, though accurate. So I got rid of it. However, this little preamp is just as good as the A3CR at a price 5 times less expensive. I think the reason creek can keep this preamp so cheap is that build quality is striped down to minimum to allow for maximum sound quality. One warning is that this preamp must be matched with really good source and power, otherwise weaknesses from other components will be truthfully revealed by this preamp. My equipments are: Arcam CD72 used as transport Musical Fidelity A3 24 DAC Creek OBH12 peramp Musical Fidelity A3CR poweramp B&W CDM1NT Transparent cables all around

Similar Products Used:

Musical Fidelity A3CR

OVERALL
RATING
5
VALUE
RATING
5
[May 16, 2002]
Gene
Audio Enthusiast

Strength:

sounds great so far, more to follow

Please disregard my previous review. The unit was defective. The new one sounds much better and I will post another review after more listening.

OVERALL
RATING
5
VALUE
RATING
5
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