Jadis Orchestra Reference Amplifiers
Jadis Orchestra Reference Amplifiers
USER REVIEWS
[Mar 16, 2019]
jongsten
Strength:
Coherent warm sound and enough control . Beautiful with acoustic instruments! Weakness:
Non that I can think of Price Paid: 1200
Purchased: Used
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[Mar 04, 2011]
Louis
AudioPhile
The Jadis Orchestra Reference is like getting into an exclusive club at Walmart discount price. The sound is sweet and musical. A joy to listen to.
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[Sep 01, 2008]
bassbox
AudioPhile
Strength:
everything
Weakness:
no phono stage, has alot of character so might not suit some speakers that a not linear. This would have to be by far the best tube I have ever heard in the price range on the market. Im driving some quad electrostatics with this baby & I tell you if you havent heard one then make the time & Im sure you will by one! I have been listening to audio on highend equipment for over 20 years and I cant say I have heard an amp which such character as this, it is warm colourful, the KT90's are a treat. Only thing I dont like is know phono stage. I will never get rid of this amp for years to come it will become a part of music history in my family! |
[Jun 06, 2007]
krypton
AudioPhile
Strength:
Clarity, tone, speed, 3D presence, open-airy midrange , huge detail delivery for a tube amp. Height, body of instruments and voices without any bluring of images. Transperancy and focus of first class equipment. Too many strengths for the money. Bass is very nicely delivered without been fat, boomy and gooey. Drive and dynamics.
Weakness:
Needs manual biasing every time you change tubes. I believe this is a legendary product and the best value for money. I listened to a lot of quality amplifiers even at double the price of the Jadis Orchestra Reference but this amplifier did so many things right that I finally brought it.
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[Feb 06, 2007]
audmanic
AudioPhile
Strength:
Weakness:
Retubing is something that needs help from an expert. Not so easy-to find EiKT90 tubes.
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[Oct 13, 2006]
hyperterminal06
AudioPhile
Strength:
all
Weakness:
no phono stage This amp is absoulutely the best sounding amp I have ever bought, it has plenty of power as well and ran my speaking with ease (at 86db usually needs alot to run)
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[Sep 19, 2006]
Jadis
AudioPhile
Strength:
Magical. Class A looks and sonics. Grain-free. Airy and muscular. Very detailed. Precision of images and richness of true texture information - all there.
Weakness:
When re-tubing it must be biased from a professional or from the official service. Not bad if you like the warm and 'character' of Ei KT90 tubes , except if you like to change them quickly for the Electroharmonix KT90 or KT88s.
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[Jun 21, 2006]
demos100
AudioPhile
Strength:
Dynamics, soundstage, imaging, tromendous detail, harmonically rich and complete, everything sounds like the real thing surpassing any other amp I heared.
Weakness:
Somethiing that has not to do with the sound. When you change KT90 tubes , you need the help of an expert for biasing the tubes. You cannot do the job alone, you need a Jadis-expert person. But this is minor when you realize the sound quality you get from this amp. The most succesful purchase I ever did. Overall sound cannot be compared with anything I auditioned.
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[Nov 09, 2005]
RBez
Audio Enthusiast
Strength:
Natural life-like presentation; with well-balanced sound-stage and detailed imaging. * Exquisite tone and timbre for strings and vocals. The perfect amplifier for classical music. * Horns also wonderful - Miles, Coltrane, Brownie, et al never sounded better. * Given the above, it's no surprise to find it completely non-fatiguing. Expect to spend even more hours listening to music if you buy one. * For this quality, a very modest price. In fact, can't imagine comparable sound for twice the price. * Only six tubes, so ongoing costs managable. * Charming aesthetics and terrific build quality.
Weakness:
Not overly powerful, so bass control less than ideal, and if played very loud, then compression in dynamic passages of orchestral works. * High resolution and tonal balance robs poorly produced or performed pop/rock of some of its excitement. * It's so good, you'll need great speakers to really hear what it can do. This is a beautiful sounding amplifier, with much of the character of the larger, far more expensive, Jadis products. The reproduction of voices and string tones is exemplary, and overall timbre is remarkably lifelike. Imaging is terrific, with great depth and height to the sound-stage; the presentation is not as 'spectacular' as some, in that the sound is very cohesive and integrated, with nothing artificially leaping out of the mix - the performers appear to be on stage, not impudently sitting down on the sofa next to you; yet individual instruments are marvellously defined, even in old mono recordings. As an object, the Jadis also possesses a certain aesthetic charm, with polished steel and gold-plated brass surfaces, and an asymmetric array of transformers, valves and capacitors - there's almost an art-deco quality to its form. Build quality is very high. * In Sydney, Australia, it is available from Audio Connection, Leichhardt - the store owner also being the Australian distributor for Jadis - the retail price is $5,000, but deals are offered; servicing is done onsite; the factory warranty is 2 years, although the store volunteered to extend this to 3, unprompted. The version I have is fitted with KT90 tubes. Apparently the latest production features KT88s, which are said to have even sweeter mids and highs, but lose a trifle in bass extension. Other tubes, including EL34s, are accepted. It has been measured as producing 53wpc. This is more than adequate for driving an efficient speaker at moderate volume levels. * From my experience, it seems prudent to audition this amplifier with your own speakers, and with your own music. The limitations in power could be felt if you have inefficient speakers, or primarily listen to rock/pop or large scale orchestral music. * Used with my current Wilson CUB speakers, which are efficient at 94dB, but present a load of 4 Ohms (or less), the Jadis sounded light in the bass, compared to my previous amplifiers, a 110wpc Audio Research D125 (tube) power and SP9MkIII preamp. Here, it might be worth mentioning that the Jadis features tone controls - however boosting the bass with these is no remedy, as the problem is lack of control and definition - the slow grumble of a cello and bass orchestral section was realistic, very atmospheric, while the plucked bass of a jazz quartet lost its drive and impact (at one point I wondered if Ron Carter had just walked off the stage!); Bootsy Collins' electric bass was muddy. The tone controls, in general, have proven superfluous. I found the perfect solution to be a sub-bass, and so purchased a REL StormIII. Unsurprisingly, with this combination the bass is superb - what is more, the entire presentation was rendered more full and engaging. The CUBs response ends abruptly at 50Hz, but even listening to Wilson Sophias, which extend close to 30Hz, the sound lacked a certain body, and a sub could well be the cure here too - although, counter to this, a few of the store's clients ran their Sophias with the Jadis Orchestra Reference in preference to larger amps partly because they prefered the light but cohesive bass, but mainly because the overall sound is so natural and seductive. * Perhaps the best testimony in favour of the Orchestra Reference is the fact that all the other amplifiers I auditioned were many times its price - the old ARCs mentioned above, the new ARC VS55 and VS110, with the SP9MkIII and an LS25; a Jadis Defy7MkIV; Gryphon S100 (used). To my ears, the Orchestra Reference was the best, with vocals and string tone rivalling the sound achieved on one of store's $250,000 dream systems . * As with most equipment, running-in is crucial before a final judgement on sound quality. The Jadis, although beguiling straight out of the box, took over a week to approach its best. This improvement saw a relaxation in the initially somewhat constricted feel to dynamics, and a definite strengthening of bass definition (even without the sub). * As with all tube amps, the reliability of the actual tubes is an issue - a three month warranty on these is given in Australia. A full retube consists of four KT90s and two 12AX7s, this costing around $Aus240 - biasing requires a technician, or considerable familiarity. Compared to solid state, a degree of noise, or microphonics, is inevitable, and is not in itself a fault; certainly it should not interfere with playback enjoyment. * In sum, an absolute bargain in terms of sound. For chamber music and vocals it is hard to beat at any price. A sub makes jazz, rock, and orchestral almost as astonishing. In this price range, the Krell integrated is a competitor, yet provides a completely different sound - great 'slam', but for my taste, far too dry and 'hi-fi', as opposed to delicate and natural and 'just right' with the Jadis. Similar Products Used: ARC SP9MkIII + ARC D70 & D125 (for years); auditioned - ARC D115, VT100MkI & MkIII; VS55; VS110; Jadis Defy MkIV; Gryphon S100; Krell 400ix; Musical Fidelity TriVista and A3series. |
[Feb 04, 2005]
tubeman004
AudioPhile
Strength:
Perfect sound stage Mid response perfect Very responsive Loud, drive any speakers over 85db without issues
Weakness:
non at price, although a phono stage would be good, although these days is fading. Living in australia it really is hard to get the oppurtunity to try many amps, unfortunately australia seems to be a solid state nation. So when I had the chance to audition the much talked about Jadis range I jumped at the oppurtunity. As I was listening to this product I was absolutely blown away, I had finally manage to talk the sales rep into leaving a deposit and taken the unit home for a further listen to see how it sounded with the dynamics of my system and with my sometimes trickey room acoustics. So I raced home with the product keen to see how things unfolded. Many times before I have heard items in showrooms only to be disappointed when matched with the variables of my system. THE TEST After the ritual of unpack all items and setting them up I put on a test cd and let it warm up for 30 minutes whilst I did other household duties before I sat down for my listening session. JADIS is definately easy on the eye as I sat down to audtion it I admired the larged KT90's with the beatiful orange glow reflecting upon the gold inscibed face plate, you wont have any problems with convincing the other half that it matches the decor'. The first cd I listened to was herbie hancock's Watermelon man re-recorded in 1998 live in the studio, the reason I picked this as it has a strange mix of both classic analogue devices, and new age syths. As the syths started playing I was amazed by the speed and tight reaction of the busy riffs and ghosts notes of the drummer, this amp certianly is responsive. Strangely enough I would almost think it was compresed if it wasn't for the depth of field that was created by the other instruments in the mix. The soundstage was really quite mature for a amp in its price range I have heard many twice the price that failed to delivery such depth and clarity, instrument speration I felt was the real strength of this amp it really defined each instrument well. Next I decided to put on a classical peice by vivaldi and I was not to be disappointed, I would have to say it was close to the best string sound I have ever heard. It was probably around one hour now since I turn the unit on and it seemed the dynamics and soundstage where still growning. I have heard many a kt88 based system in my time, but kt90's really leave them for dead. The chello's where absoulutely amazing when hitting bottom end notes that usually may have an audio blur whilst notes resonate, it seem to tightly and discreet roll them of to a warm rounded sound, whilst highs where crisp and non abrasive. The only two things that intrigued me about this amp was firstly tone controls a odd addition, I've always thought of them as distortion gains as apposed to anything else, but hey when you have a amp that sounds this great leaving them at 12 o'clock who cares, and secondly no phono stage, but yes this seems to be a sign of the times. I decided to have a look under the hood (I was already going to buy this unit so the sales rep didnt need to be concerned) to find a level of craftmanship was I was impressed with all hardwared point to point with neat solder work and a short signal path. The french makers of this amp really take care in there projects this is evident. All and all this is a great unit, I cant fault it at all for the price and a great addition to my setup, my numerous valve kits will now gather dust for a few months to come. If you are looking at a sub $8k unit you cannot go passed this little unit. |