SACD Rules! CD's sound better than on my classic Sony DVP-7000. 3 year warranty.

Thumping changer mechnism, but I was able to dampen most of the noise by glueing (contact cement) a single thickpad (1.75 in) of foam rubber to the inside top of the entire cover.

I had been contemplating joining the SACD revolution for about a year, but noticed that most of the players available these days were combo low end CDSCDDVD models and I wasn't about to drop 3k on no kinda of player!. I started searching google for a stand alone SACD player and came upon 2 mid-high end models, the Sony SCD-555ES and SCD-222ES which seem to be discontined, but I stumnbled upon the last one in stock at a local a/v store in the Wash DC area. Connected to my current system, the rumors I've heard about SACD are true! I don't know how they did it, but I find myself listening long hours to many of my old cd's and multichannel SACD disks sound incredible on my exclusive Sony setup.

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$$ Value,don't know what I'll do if it keeps getting better with time!

Clunks when changing discs,not much else...

OK so SACD is the closest thing yet to vinyl repro, even close to the original analogue tapes in some cases. I'd have to agree with that providing all sources are created equal.(which they're not!)Simply musical player, of course it's not perfect,mine clunks when it changes discs too, but man, for this kind of $$$ I'd challenge anyone to show me a CD player (particularly 5 disc) that is noticeably more efficient than this SCD C222ES. Sounds better each time I play it, although a little thin on redbook cds'.

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- regular CD sound - 2-ch. or multi-ch. SACD capable - very good display - build quality - good remote

- clunky and slow changer - bass management not state-of-the-art

Normally I'd wait longer than a month before posting a review, but since this player is about to be discontinued, I thought I'd get my thoughts down for those considering a purchase. I never set out to get an SACD player, since the format's future is still murky. My primary consideration was good CD playback. For years I was satisfied with an old Philips CD player and then using my Toshiba DVD player for CD, until my roommate added her old 5-disc Sony to my system. Her player was purchased in 1989, so it was not much newer than my Philips, but I started using the Sony due to the convenience of the carousel changer. After listening to it for a few weeks I went back to the Philips and Toshiba, and let me tell you there was a definite difference. The Sony sounded more refined and full, making the others sound sterile and flat in comparison. This prompted me to search for a changer of my own, so I bought a Marantz CC-3000 to match my SR6200 receiver. Big mistake. While the Marantz looked great and had a very fast and quiet changer, it didn't sound much better than the Toshiba DVD unit. Even switching to Coax and using the 6200's DACs didn't improve things by much (don't let anyone tell you that "digital is digital" - the quality of the player transport DOES make a difference in the sound). I made up my mind to return the Marantz and get a Sony. Unfortunately, Sony CD changer model selection is pretty poor in Canada, with only low-end and high-end available, so I had to look to the US for a decent unit in my price range. The SCD-C222ES was priced right, had good reviews, and plays multi-channel SACDs as a bonus. Before being recently discontinued in Canada, it retailed for $1099 CDN ($725 US) - a blatant rip-off compared to the $500 US retail (less via mail order). Even with the exchange rate, taxes and brokerage fee, I paid about $725 CDN to my door - a fair price for this excellent machine. The build quality is better than the Marantz, but this is to be expected, given the Sony’s higher retail price. It has a very nice, uncluttered front panel, and gold-plated output jacks at rear. The display is very neat and legible, with CD text display on those rare discs that have the title and track text incorporated. Now for a review of the sound: for regular CD playback using the Analogue outputs, even better than the older Sony described above. The soundstage is deeper, the quiet passages more silent, and soft instruments can be heard far more easily. I have not compared the Digital out yet, but I would not be surprised if my mid-range receiver DACs were inferior to the purpose-built Sony's. I have only one SACD so far (Film Music of Jerry Goldsmith) and it sounds even better, especially in multi channel, for a very realistic “you are there” experience. The only real problem I have with this player is the noisy changer - it is slow and loud, making shuffle play more distracting than it should be. If Marantz can put a faster, quieter one in a player that costs less than half as much, why can't Sony? One minor gripe is the bass management for multi-channel SACDs – it is fairly primitive, with a cross over fixed at 120Hz. Not a huge problem, but not state of the art flexibility either. Some have said that with SACD bass management engaged (as opposed to running 5-ch. “Direct” mode), the sound quality is compromised somewhat, but I can’t confirm this without more testing. Others have said they run in “Direct” mode even with small surround speakers with good results, indicating that not a lot of bass is sent to the surround speakers anyway. It doesn’t look like Sony is replacing this player with a newer model, only introducing DVD/SACD combo players. Which means you will either pay more for your SACD player to get DVD Video, or (if you don’t get a high-end model) a cheaper do-it-all machine that lacks in sound quality. Verdict – if you want a good sounding CD changer with multi-channel SACD as a bonus, get an SCD-C222ES before they’re gone. While it may have been slightly over priced when introduced, it is a bargain now.

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I bought sony c222es Jan/20/01 the sound is great depending on how good the sacd disc is.I have the Pioneer Elite DV38A DVD auido player the same holds true for DVD auido disc's.I listened to the more pricy players the sony 333ES 555ES and the 777ES I could not hear any real diffrent or better sound from the other players to spend more money.

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Plays SACD’s and CD’s pretty well, has rudimentary bass-management features, looks good in my rack

Loud, clunky changing mechanism; bass management, speaker-level and distance adjustments not up to same standards as even a $150 DVD player.

I bought this player after first trying out the $300 NS500V DVD and SACD player, which I found to be kind of bright in SACD playback. (with nothing to compare it to at the time, however.) I was also disappointed with the plasticy-ness of the 500V, and wanted something that looked worthy to share rack space with my Sony STR-DA777ES receiver (not that I think it’s hi-end or anything). I also bought an Onkyo 555 DVD-V only player to replace the video functions of the 500V. Was it worth it? Well, the 222ES and the Onkyo certainly look better than the 500V, but performance-wise, I don’t think the “upgrade” was worth the additional $800 I spent. The 222ES does not sound bright on my system, which is a plus, but it did not include the same demo disc as the 500V, so I have nothing to directly compare it with (the 222ES did not come with any demo disc at all, to be precise). The 222ES also uncovered a major flaw in my system, which is hampering my ability to be really enthusiastic about this player. I discovered that the subwoofer test tone, through the 5.1 jacks of my receiver, is attenuated by more than 20 dB compared with the other 5 channels, requiring me to max-out the player’s sub/front balance slider (which actually reduces the output of the front channels, requiring a very high volume setting on my receiver to compensate) and to crank up my subwoofers’ volume controls to nearly maximum. Scary! After finding that this problem does not exist when connected to my Outlaw receiver (in the bedroom), I assumed the problem was isolated to my Sony receiver’s 5.1 inputs, although I did not recall having this problem with the 500V. So I have no idea what’s wrong, but it almost seems to be some sort of incompatibility between the SACD subwoofer output and my receiver’s inputs. Perhaps an impedance mismatch? I don’t know – but the bottom line is that I was unable to use the bass management features of this player. I ended up getting around this the hard way ($$$$$), by upgrading my front speakers to full-range NHT 2.5i’s, which I was in the process of doing anyway. If I hadn’t done that, I would essentially have been unable to use this player with my system. But like I said, it worked fine with my Outlaw, so this may not apply to anyone other than 777ES owners, or maybe to just me. Other than that, the sound is fine. SACD can be pretty great at times

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Excellent detail and calrity for regular CDs, balanced across the whole audio spectrum, SACD capable, price.

Noisy CD changer mechanism.

Okay, you know the drill. He want''s a new CD player for $500-$1000. She wants a changer and remote for that much money... I tried this player and I can''t say I immediatley liked the ''sound'' but I could clearly hear that it produced the most detail than I had heard of all the players I had listend to, even the $1000+ players. It was less ''musical'' but I found myself hearing the music so clearly that I wasn''t listening to the player or it''s effect on the music. High praise but I''m still not won over by the ''sound''. The store had Adcom 100W and B&W CM4 speakers connected to it for listening. The CM4s are what was taking away from the musicality. They are bright and not best with classical. The changer mechanism is a bit clunk''n''thunk when changing. It has been picky with CDs that play on other players, at a rate of about 1% of our collection. Even ones that look perfect - to the human eye! SACDs makes regular CDs sound like cartoon music. Set in at home with my NAD and Pradigm Studio 60v2 tha player sings and plays very well. It''s a bargin at the price.

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Some mid-90''s Pioneer and early NAD. Listened against Rotel 1070, 991, Creek 43mkII, NAD 541, Adcom 750, Arcam CD72.

Very musical, great buy at this price.

carosel a little noisy when changing. non-detach power-cord

My SCD-777ES is going into the shop. Wanted the fun
of a changer and needed a front loader(SCD-777ES top loading
and needed a lot of shelf space). Even though
it doesn't have the detail and slam of the SCD-777ES/SCD-1
the DACS to me are more musical; ironically I find myself
listening to whole CD's and songs as opposed to always
hitting 'skip' on the SCD-777ES(I have heard the new SCD-XA777ES is much more involving than either the old SCD-777ES and SCD-1). Some say this 222 is a slightly souped up version of the lower priced non-ES unit---even so I am most pleased. I do use it mainly for SACD two channel, but redbook is also good. I use NAIM CD5 for redbook which for
me is awesome and very involving. Anyway at the price, the 222 was hard to resist.

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Good interface, solidly built, smooth CD sound, ease of setup and use. Very good CD sound, outstanding SACD

A little noisy when switching disks. Needs a week or so of break-in time to settle in to its final sound.

This is a first impression review, since I've only had mine about a week, but since nobody's submitted one I thought I'd put my thoughts out here.

I wanted to get my feet into the SACD world without making a large investment, since I don't know whether the format will be a success. I thought about getting a changer anyway so this way I got both. I set it up and let it play for about a week straight in repeat mode before making any real judgements on the player.

My other components:

Amp: Krell KAV-300i
CD: Krell KAV-250cd
Speakers: B&W Nautilus 805
Cables: Kimber Hero interconnects, 8TC speaker cables biwired
Phono: NAD 533 with PP-1 preamp (budget but good stuff)

As a CD player: this is a very competent player. My Krell is smoother, but it ought to be for 3 times as much. For a modest price, it plays CD's very well: pretty fine grain, little glare and quite smooth. Excellent bass for an inexpensive player. No HDCD decoding.

With SACD's the sound is a revelation. OK, I have to admit I've only auditioned a couple of SACD players in different systems. I don't have another player on hand for comparison in my own system, so this obviously is only an impression rather than an objective comparison. That said, the sound that comes out of this box with a good SACD is glorious. It sounds like vinyl without any of the drawbacks. Incredible bass response compared to CD's and no CD harshness. Nothing but smooth musical sound from top to bottom. I listened to the $5000 SCD-1 in a big Krell/B&W Nautilus 801 system, and have to say that many of my impressions of the top-of-the-line SACD sound were present in my similar but lower cost system.

As part of the ES series, this is a little better quality unit than Best Buy level Sony. The unit is very solid. The cabinet does not rattle when you tap it. The mechanism to handle the disks is smooth and solid. Nothing flimsy about this unit at all. The remote and front panel functions are flexible and intuitive (much better than my Krell here). It needs a good amount of break-in time so don't pass judgement on it until you've heard one that has been burned in. It sounded pretty rough right out of the box. Be patient.

I only used the player in two-channel mode so I can't vouch for multichannel performance. I can say that the set up for surround appears to be easy to use and very flexible for different kinds of speaker setups.

Is there a better SACD player out there? Almost certainly, if you're prepared to spend the money for it. I'd rather have the C555ES, but that would have cost me at least twice as much. If you're sitting on the fence about SACD and don't want to throw megabucks at a player, though, this is the one to get. Then you can start supporting this terrific new format and go buy SACD's. If you decide to buy a higher-end player down the road, you haven't lost much.

(And congrats to Sony for a great upgrade to the CD format. Now let's see you guys get some more music out there.)

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