Reference 3A MM De Capo Bookshelf Speakers

Reference 3A MM De Capo Bookshelf Speakers 

DESCRIPTION

Phase Coherent System Design
2-Way Tuned Port Monitor with exceptional bass response.
8 ¼" diameter, designed and build by Reference 3A.
Designed not to require cross-overs.
Very wide frequency response.
Hyper exponential shaped woven carbon cone.
Exclusive Vibra-Puck treated driver structure.
Precisely shaped phase plug.

USER REVIEWS

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[Mar 26, 2011]
jacalan
AudioPhile

Have the De Capo i's which were purchased in '08 and I had them upgraded by the manufacturer Divergent Technologies in "09 (free of charge as provided to those De Capo owners who purchased them in '08) which provided significant improvment for even more stellar imaging some improvement in low frequency response and seemingly better reproduction of low level information. I can only say that my love affair with these things has evolved and I can never see myself giving them up. I nearly did this year however as my one complaint concerning these speakers is how finicky they are when it comes to placement and interaction with room anomolies. I have lived in 3 different homes since purchasing these and they were simply stupendous in the first 2 room and most frustrating in my current home as the only room available to set them up in was a sonic nightmare. In fact I actually auditioned other speakers (Maggies MMGS as a trial) as I could not overcome the room nodes I was presented with. The Maggies were nice and fun (in a "they sure sound different than the De Capo's" kind of way) but I was always yearning for the sound that I knew the De Capos are capable of. I finally finished some rearranging and now have a dedicated listening room which is much more forgiving and now the De capos are back baby!! It's almost like buying them new all over again. Have had a couple of late night listening sessions again as I can't stop listening and becoming totally engrossed in the discs I cued up for listening sessions. Holographic imaging, midrange palpability, tuneful and engaging bass. I've recently aquired a rather rare and obscure "Steinhart Audio" tube amp and pre and I will now stop looking. The sound from my system is so satisfying that this is the first time in years (actually decades) that I am no longer considering any upgrades or changes. To anyone considering the De Capos I can only urge you to give them a try and to not give up if they confound you (or rather your room) as again the one fault for me is how utterly sensitive they are to your rooms acoustics. I reccomend that you place them well away from room boundaries if you are able and to utilize acoustical room treatments if need be. I assure you that the extra expense and effort can be unbelievably rewarding. These speakers are so revealing that they are chameleon like and will allow you to hear any and all changes / improvments you make to your system. Swapping out interconnects, making small changes via tweaks or even moving them on inch this way or that can invite dramatic changes to your system. Anyway I am thrilled to have my De Capos back. So now ......... gotta go listen to some music!!! Happy listening all !!!!!

OVERALL
RATING
5
VALUE
RATING
5
[Sep 30, 2006]
JerryJigsaw
AudioPhile

Strength:

English is not my native language so i'll make it simple: I agree with all the things mentioned in all the other positive reviews here, and in other places before, it is truly a remarkable speaker.

Weakness:

They're only weakness is that they are monitors. The lower frequencies produced by the DeCapo's are of a high quality, there is however, just like with every other monitor no extension below 40 hz.
They will make you long for a powered sub in the long run. It will have to be a verry expensive one to be in the same leaque as the deCapo's. It can be matched succesfully to high end Rel and Velodyne subs i understand. But by that time the total price tag might be as high as high quality floor standers. The advantage is however (and that is why i bought them) that you can buy the sub(s) when you have the money.

I bought these speakers used, after doing some investigation on the web. I was looking for a speaker that might be paired to a tube amp in the future, and that had great cosmetics (i found a pair off the amazing piano-black version). Positive reviews in magazines and on this site helped me make my choice.
I Do not own a tube amp yet. My current amp is a vintage Luxman 309 from the 70's (OK but nothing special) and the source is a Njoe tjoeb 4000 tubed cd player. The result i get from this combo is of a very high quality. Almost everything positive stated in the reviews here and elsewhere is true. Also the fact that the speaker tends to reveal weaknesses in the sources. I initially used a very basic 15 year-old Sony player to drive the luxman-deCapo combo and did not understand what all the fuss was about. They sounded cold, edgy, and clean in a negative way, and the lower frequencies were just not there (the type off remarks often heard about the deCapo's). After upgrading to the Njoe Tjoeb 4000 CD player the DeCapo's showed all the virtues so often discribed before. I am amazed that my system even though i have not upgraded my amp to the same level as the cd-player and speakers yet , can already/almost compete with very exclusive systems i've heared before.

OVERALL
RATING
5
VALUE
RATING
4
[Jul 17, 2003]
JeffJW
AudioPhile

Strength:

Soundstage/Image size Speed Accuracy Suprisingly good bass Details in midrange and highs No fatique (I listen all day sometimes) 93 dB efficiency - Great with lower power tube amps Cool looking

Weakness:

Odd finish choices that may not pair with your other equipment or furniture may cause lower WSF(wife satisfaction factor)

Note: this is a re-written review after I pulled my old one. After upgrading the turntable and amplification, I went looking for speakers. I found these at Archive Audio in Columbus, Ohio, and I was very impressed. Big image, precise mids and highs, tight bass. Did I mention big image? These speakers are fast and detailed and really wonderful. They are strong down to 40 Hz and still have some output at 31 Hz. Music seems to come from the entire wall behind the speakers, it's just remarkable. High efficiency lets you use lower power tube amps that won't cost you the mortgage. I listen to mostly rock and jazz, but i'm warming to more classical now with these speakers. All those instruments, and you can listen to every single one. Unless you need explosion bass, these will do everything. My system: Reference 3A MM de Capo-i Anthem Amp 1 (40 Wpc) Anthem Pre 2L Music Hall MMF-5 Creek OBH-8 Harmon Kardon FL8400 CD changer

Similar Products Used:

Owned: Cambridge Soundworks Ensemble II, older Bose speakers Auditioned: Theil CS1.6, B&W Nautilus 805, Revel Performa M20, Joseph Audio RM7si Signature Mk2, JM Lab Cobalt 816, Magneplanar MG 1.6, V

OVERALL
RATING
5
VALUE
RATING
5
[Jun 18, 2003]
jaosn523
Audio Enthusiast

Strength:

TRANSPARENCY. DYNAMICS (MACRO, MICRO) ARE YOU-ARE-THERE, Sensitivity, imaging, staging, BASS, Tonality, CLARITY, VOCALS, they can play LOUD, soft, delicate, driving, anything

Weakness:

I give up. sand filled stands help with bass impact

I've had these speaks for a while. They are not the "i" version. Who cares. I used them with an ASL 1003 DT amp and Rotel 971 modified CDP. I also had an audience power cord and analysis plus solo crystal oval ICs, and HT speaker cables. I had these on their custom stands, sand-filled in a medium size room. These speakers are the most transparent speaks I've ever heard. They sound as good as your source and associated equipment, but you don't need a 5k cdp for these to sound good. My rotel cdp was a good solid cdp and my amp was quite capable for the money and the sound was gor-geous. If you have grade A equipment.... oh the joys that await you. I did have dynaudio speaks and a Krell amp before this and that combo was MILES behind the ref 3a/ASL combo. This sound is warmer, more vivid, lifelike in tonality and dimension, more dynamic, you name it. These speakers have the best bass you will EVER hear in a 2-way bookshelf. More than that, its bass trashed the bass of the other speakers (including the big 3 and 4-ways) I heard down to 38hz. The bass can have texture, slam, you name it. Try some Everything But the Girl. Try some DVD-video (DVD-audio even more) discs and realize what music really sounds like. The dynamics can go from whisper soft to blow-your-doors-off so fast it sounds like you're listening in real-time. I've been accused of having a subwoofer numerous times. Pair this speak with a good tubed preamp and tubed amp (doesn't have to powerful, these are 92 dB) and a quality source and stop looking. Listen instead. The other speakers I heard weren't bad, but I was yawning the whole time. I didn't know what my last speaker's weaknesses were until I heard this. There's a reason the hi-fi manufacturers are making hi-sensitivity speaks for use with lower powered amps - their customers are demanding it.

Similar Products Used:

Dynaudio's, B&W CDM 1NT, 604, etc., 2.5k Infinity Bookshelves, Polk, Meadowlark, Thiel, Silverline, Triangle's, some British monitors, Vienna Acoustics, JMRs, some big, boxy 3 and 4-way floorstanders

OVERALL
RATING
5
VALUE
RATING
5
[Dec 25, 2002]
jacks
AudioPhile

Strength:

Good value in Canadian dollar. High sensitivity Textile tweeter & (paper) driver No crossover Musical, incredible detail, differentiating base

Weakness:

Peak between 600-800 Hz. May take some getting used to. Unforgiving with some Pop/secular recordings.

Got the latest version of De capo with the -i- extension, supposedly better bracing, binding posts, and the wood veneer finish is more benign and reserved. Better than the old "piano black" type finish. I never heard them before I bought them. I didn't like the B&W 804 that I auditioned, and couldn't justify driving over 200 miles to the nearest Revel dealer for the Performa M20. I also think that it is impossible to compare speakers among different dealers--upstream components and room acoustics are totally uncomparable. (I was also annoyed that nobody carries Conrad Johnson in Alberta.) So in the end, the textile tweeter dome, high sensitivity (-91 dB, carbon fiber (treated paper?) woofer, absence of cross-over, a feeble Canadian dollar, and a dealer I trust persuaded the purchase. My listening room is the living room that is kind of square (~16 ft wide) but extends (opens) to the kitchen and dinning areas, so there's a lot of open space (9' ceiling), but the walls & corners are a bit oddly shaped. The back wall is mainly windows, but got hybrid fabric blinds on them. My city is about 3000 ft above sea level. Components are Arcam FMJ CD23T, C-J PV14 line stage (single gain stage tubes), C-J MV60 amp (bought Mullard 12AX7 and Svetlana EL34s from Upscale Audio), Cardas Cross interconnects, Cardas Hexlink 5C speaker cables (at 16 ft long against all advices I got). Was at least 50 hours before the De Capo-i could be listened to. I suggest leaving the house during that time; the sound actually hurts your ears. Once burned in though, they sound very good. Most notably wide and tall soundstage (more like an arch), accurate timbre, details...details that, good or bad, really differentiate one recording from another. This is especially true of the bass - it sounds to me NO two recordings capture the bass (acoustic or electric)in the same way. For example, the bass from Norah Jones's albrum sounds quite bloated, actually a bit unpleasant, whereas Phil Collin's works are generally tight, rhythmic and musical. The drums (or whatever you call them) in Loreena McKinnon's album could make your heart flutter. Boyz II Men's Collection(esp. the song for mama!) gives that chest-heavy kind of bass that is powerful but warm. Sometimes I think I have a virtual subwoofer, but it's not always pleasant. Vocals are generally good. Renee Flamming, Cecilia Bartole sound positively heavenly, whereas Jennifer Warnes and Cassandra Wilson sound warm and rich. However, after ~200 hours of listening, I notice my ears suffer with female Pop vocals (e.g. Laura Pausini's latest English title, S Club 7). Perhaps these speakers are a bit unforgiving when it somes to secular recording/production. But certain piano recordings, esp. Jim Brickman's Yamaha (on recent HDCD -? title) seem painfully forward. I guess this latter problem reflects the peak between 600 and 800 Hz (see UHF's review of the De Capo, linked to the reference3A.com website). The peak is readily audible using the frequency tracks on the Stereophile's test CD. I think this may give the "detail" quality of these speakers (at least in that frequency range), but it's something you have to learn to live with. I wounld have gone for another speaker (e.g. Revel Performa M20, ? Joseph Audio RM7si) to avoid this peak, but only if all else remains equal! Having said that, there is no doubt the De Capo-i's are dynamic, musical, revealing speakers. Their physical presence pretty much disappears once the music is on. They seems quite capable (no, not superb) with complex orchestral music, but I can't expect too much from 2-way speakers. From all the other reviews below, they seem very good for the money.

Similar Products Used:

None

OVERALL
RATING
4
VALUE
RATING
4
[Nov 23, 2002]
bruce gelman
AudioPhile

Strength:

Superior imaging,taught bass in sufficient quantity and quality,human voice and woody and metallic sounds reproduced with great realism.Easy to drive with hudreds of different amps.

Weakness:

Lowest octaves go missing but only if you cannot do without realistic pipe organ repertoire.On balance they have no lack and few competitors at the price point.

The latest iteration of the DeCapos the "I" designation have been in my system for about one month and they are still breaking in but some characteristics are clear.These speakers radiate with a clarity that few floorstanders can match.It's two way design has I believe been pushed to its logical limits.Articulation of piano hammer strikes have the resonance of the real thing and vocals have a throaty weight that tricks you into a physical presence in your room.Extremely complicated pieces of orchestral nature are the only music it strains to unravel but given that its a two way design it more than makes up this lack in dynamic realism and timbral accuracy.It's been said often but bears repeating that you would need to spend thousands more to find a speaker that can do what the decapos do and reproduce the lower octaves without smearing the mids and highs.They love tubes, in my case the vtl tiny triodes and set folks will go nuts over the efficiency they have,92db.

Similar Products Used:

vadersteen,spica,living voice,

OVERALL
RATING
4
VALUE
RATING
4
[Sep 15, 2002]
Maprik
AudioPhile

Strength:

Ultimate transparency with ultimate delicacy, finess, and POWER.

Weakness:

lack of low bass but who cares?

I agree with all of the positive reviews below. This speaker is unbelieveable in it's transparency and speed. In my room they are absolutely NOT THERE. You cannot tell that music is emitting from them. Incredible. Every subtle nuance and dynamic, every texture and fade, every breath and whack is there in the soundstage, but the speakers are not. Associated equip: Rega Planar 25 w/ Benz Micro Glider M2 Lehmann Audio Black Cube Classe CDP .5 Bottlehead Foreplay preamp Creek OBH-12 volume control/passive pre Music Reference RM-9 amp PS Audio P300 powerplant Custom Silver interconnects Synergistic Research Resolution Reference .5 speaker cables

Similar Products Used:

Totem Arros, Sound Dynamics 300ti, Coincident Speaker Tech Triumph Signatures, Coincident Conquests, Sonus Faber Grand Pianos

OVERALL
RATING
5
VALUE
RATING
5
[Jul 02, 2002]
Harold
AudioPhile

Strength:

Coherent, seamless, fast, musical...h

Weakness:

tweeter can be little too zippys

Mingus, Red Garland, Miles, Coltrane, Reiner conducting, Bartok, Mozart, Bach, Messaien, Schoenberg, Beethoven (especially his very late stuff), Led Zeppelin, REM, Pavement, Nirvana, Depeche Mode, Moby, U2, Tragically Hip, Ry Cooder, Stravinsky, Verace, Casals, Starker, Alison Krauss, Sara K., and the list goes on with about another 250 artisits, 300 composers, etc.......always a joy to listen to... AND This speaker lets you know the difference between components immediately, and even from another room...no hyperbole guys! For all those ABX freaks out there you need to use these speakers to do your testing. If you are a true music lover these speakers may be the last ones you will ever need however, can be bettered at a price...(see below)?

Similar Products Used:

3A MM Plus, Totem Model 1 Signature, Reference 3A L'Integrals (easily the best speaker made by Reference 3A, and almost impossible to beat at twice the price)

OVERALL
RATING
4
VALUE
RATING
4
[Jun 27, 2002]
HIGHdb
Audio Enthusiast

Strength:

Detail without being overbearing, I hate this word, but it fits......musical. even crappy cd's sound good, and good cd's sound great. The texture and detail in the bass surpasses what my dual 10" woofed SC-IV/s could do.

Weakness:

NO WEAKNESS FOR ME!!! for others, it will be the lack of room rattling bass. I personally could care less if the room vibrates, EVEN THOUGH ON SOME TRACKS, THE ROOM WILL VIBRATE!!!

I can't agree more with the posters below. These speakers are quite amazing. I've had them for about 8 months. The speakers are meant to be biwired, but I run them straightwired, with TG audio jumpers for the tweeter (this makes a huge improvement in top end extension and clarity over the cheap copper plates that come stock) I used to have Dunlavy SCIV/a's, huge 6' tall 5 driver monsters. I was never happy with these...I demo'd some Klipch RF7's (I have a 24watt SET amp so I was looking for some efficiency) and these opened my eyes (well, ears) to the fact that the DAL's drivers don't integrate that well. I also realized then how much the DAL's sound like a box...they were getting in the way of the music! The coherence from the 2way RF-7's horn midrange was very good, although overall, the bass was just too boomy for me, and the sound was not totally involving. When I tried the De Capo's, I was amazed. These little guys absolutely disappear in the room. Sound emanates from the whole back wall...and way beyond the width of the speakers. The bass has so much texture (The timpani on Peace Orchestra, track 8) is out of this world. Listening to music now is soooo enjoyable...I'm always toe tapping, and getting goose bumps....Never happened with the dull and lifeless Dunlavy's, or the klipsch's for that matter. I've tried my 100w Muse ss amp on them and they still sound great (not as great as my tube amp, an Art Audio Jota). All of my friends agree these hands down sound better than the SC-IV/a's. Having always believed that a 2way couldn't produce the goods, I'm now a firm believer in the two-way (especially crossover-less) designs. For $2500 (including stands), I feel like I've got the bargain of the century...I needed that after selling those $8k DAL's at a huge loss, ouch. Bigger and pricier isn't always better. Definitely worth a listen unless you're in the camp that thinks a sound system has to have a subwoofer to sound good. Subwoofer room rattler types need not apply. Music lovers, do yourself a favor and demo these. They fill my room easily (approx 14x23x9) with speakers on the long wall. Keepers for sure. My Equipment: Bel Canto Sep1 tube pre Art Audio Jota High Current(300BXLS tubes) Cardas Golden Ref Ic's API Power Wedge-TG audio cords Kimber Monocle XL with TG jumpers

Similar Products Used:

Dunlavy SC-IV/a, Klipsch RF-7, NHT super ones, Proac's-various models

OVERALL
RATING
5
VALUE
RATING
5
[Dec 10, 2001]
Jon
Audio Enthusiast

Strength:

Musicality, musicality, musicality... oh, and MUSICALITY!

Weakness:

Maybe a bit low end shy, but not bad for a stand-mount speaker.

I won't get into lots of subjective terminology in this review. I'll leave that to the others below and to the professional reviewers (read the review of the De Capos in last month's Absolute Sound, for example). Suffice it to say that I am a professional musician and that I listened to MANY speakers trying to find ones that I could live with for a long time.

Enter the De Capo. Detailed, without being overly bright and analytical. Warm, accurate, dynamic. And most importantly--musical! You'll be able to pull out and enjoy all of your CDs again, not just the perfectly recorded ones. No more ear fatigue with these speakers either. The De Capos are just clean, natural sounding, wonderful speakers.

On the down side, if you're looking for thunderous, subwoofer-like bottom end, you're not going to get that here. You will get realistic, accurate bass with fantastic nuance and definition, just not at dish-rattling levels.

Bottome line: if you're ready to end your search for a great small speaker, I highly recommend that you give the De Capos a listen. You won't regret it. (And if you're looking for a dealer near Northeastern Ohio, give Bob at Archive Audio a call. He's a good guy and will treat you fairly).

Associated equipment:
Audio Analogue Puccini SE integrated amp
Pioneer PD-65 CD player
NAD 533 turntable with Sumiko Blue Point cartridge
Kimber PBJ interconnects
home made CAT-5 braided speaker cables.

Similar Products Used:

Have owned KEF, Thiel, Paradigm. Before buying the De Capos I auditioned Audio Physic, Meadowlarm, Totem, Joseph Audio, Magnapan, Paradigm, Sonus Faber, Martin Logan, amongst others.

OVERALL
RATING
5
VALUE
RATING
5
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